Discussion in 'Pipe Tobacco Reviews' started by cigarsarge, Aug 8, 2011.
Mail came today...found these:
Will commence with Sample 1 sometime today.
Edit: On second thought I think it would be better for me to wait until morning and start with a fresh palate. The first smoke is usually my longest. That way I can give it my full concentration...for what that's worth.
Awww............ come on Gary! Just gargle with a little bleach and/or gas and give #1 a go.
I would caution that if you go with the gasoline, then don't use a Nosewarmer pipe for the review.
Oh man, I was all excited to.
Okay, you talked me into it. Just came home from eating dinner and need a smoke. Going to letting Sample #1 dry a little first as it seems very moist. Will fire it up soon.
okay, here we go. A bit chilly and windy outside this evening, so that may have affected this experiment. Did the best I could.
Blind Sample 1:
Appearance: Black and appears very moist.
Bag note: This seems very restrained. I get dark fruits, like raisins or figs, or dates. Hard to discern. I had all four bags in my office, and kept getting a strong essence from somewhere. Determined that was coming from Sample #4, so I escorted Sample #4 out of the room and have it isolated. Then came back and noticed Sample #3 had a rather strong essence as well, so escorted it from the room as well. The two are now sharing a space in another room. Onward.
Prep: Dried for 20-30 minutes
Pipe: Design Berlin Junior.
Fill: 3 step. Lightly packed.
Light: Charring light, tamp, re-light.
Start time: 4:45
End time: 5:13
Top: Very mild on light. Hard to really discern anything here except the figgy/fruit notes. Nice mild sweetness. Seems all natural sweetness. Would guess it had some VAs in it to give it that. Just a guess though. Snorking gives light peppery notes. Maybe hint of citrus too. Not much tingle from the snork, so guessing the Nic level is pretty low. Wait....did I get ketchup? This isn't the infamous ketchup/vinegar thing from, uh, who is that, McClelland? 7 minutes in and I seem to be getting another spice note here. Something like a nutmeg. The entire blend seems very mild and constrained. Not that it's a bad thing, it just makes it very difficult to describe. Especially since I don't know enough about various tobys to say "aha, that's the old Perique/Latakia thing". Sorry, can't do that. It's not like any blend I've smoked to date, so can't even compare it to something else. If I were to take a stab in the dark I'd say this was a blend of VA (for the sweetness), perique and/or latakia (for the smokiness), and maybe orientals for the spice. There's my wild a$$ guess.
4:59 and it needs a relight. Too much typing and not enough puffing I guess.
Mid: I'd been puffing this harder than I should, just trying to coax some flavors from it. It just wasn't going to help. The smoke has been consistent throughout. Cool burning, mild, certainly pleasant. Just a tad frustrating as it made it hard to describe. Getting some campfire notes on the relight. Maybe some cayenne and black pepper. Just hints. A snork just gave up a shot of something like a camphor. That's odd. Didn't recur, so not sure...may be hallucinating at this point.
5:02 and the wind suddenly died down. Tongue feels like it's been dusted with a very fine coat of black pepper. Nice.
Bottom: Clove or hints of baking spices here. Really need to puff to bring it out though. Afraid I'm not doing this toby justice the way I'm trying to coax something more from it. There's been no moisture build up at all. Surprising since it seemed so moist in the bag. Just a very cool burning smoke with soft ash.
5:06 a light tamp needed. Little hints of orange/citrus now. Might be this or since I'm near the bottom, could be something in the pipe. Pipe is clean and has been unsmoked for several days now. Afraid this bowl is gone.
Overall: Very different than anything I've smoked to date. An enjoyable smoke, although seemed a bit one-dimensional. Not much complexity, but there is definitely a place for this smoke in my rotation. It's a light smoke to enjoy while clenching and doing other things, ,say fishing, puttering around the house. Very interested to know what's in this.
Post smoke: tongue has a bit of a tingle. Nic level seemed med-low though. If I were to rate this, I'd say 85/100. I'm sure under different circumstances this would score higher. Just not today. I will definitely revisit this tonight. Will toss some in a cob and follow up.
Very nicely done Sir. Heres how Milan Tobacconists describe it, its a house blend.
My Finest Kind (Aromatic) Pipe TobaccoA maduro and toasted Cavendish blended with an extremely mild, fire-cured Cavendish to produce a very pleasant, slow burning, cool smoke. Vanilla aroma and no bite.
Sweet. Part of my desire to do this was to force my lazy self to learn something about various tobaccos. Been too busy smoking to give them any thought.
Nicely done, Gary! I enjoy this one a lot, too (Scott is to be thanked for the generous sample I've been working on as well). High on my TAD list, ATM.
Very interesting thing about these samples. One particular bag seems to have quite a bit more than the others. I think it may have been the Sample 4...the one that needed to be escorted from the room. What's that Scott guy up to I wonder.
Thats to funny you had to escort it out of the room. I am very poor at measuring/ eyeballing it as it was. And also maybe I had a little more to share of one, or just in case you fall in love you'll have enough to get you by.
Gary your cellar is deep and wide, almost hard to send you something you've not had or have. But I gave it my best shot, can't wait for your next one
Really nice job Gary! It amazes how your senses pick things up that you normally would'nt because you are not looking for them. That is why this thread is so awesome.
I really liked the way you layed th review out too.
Well done, Gary! A lot more in-depth than
my reviews were. I know too much for my
That stuff sounds pretty tasty!
Thanks all. My taste buds really suck sometimes. This was definitely a tasty smoke. I have a hard time tasting something then identifying flavor components sometimes. Seems vanilla is one of those things. Had a second bowl of this and could definitely taste it now that I knew it was supposed to be be there. I smoked the second bowl a bit quicker than the first. I'd bump this rating up to 89-90/100. Someone could easily make this an all day smoke.
I'll jump into sample 2 first thing in the morning. It'll be early!
Okay, so after taking notes on Sample 2, the app on my iPad crashed and lost them all, so I'll recite from memory.
Appearance: Medium dark cut ribbon
Prep: Sat for 20 minutes while I took photos and prepped coffee.
Pipe: Savinelli Florence 602
Fill: 3 step. Small bowl on this pipe, so packed a bit firmly, but not overly so.
Light: Char, light, second char, light.
Start time: 7:15
End time: 7:50
Top: Immediately struck by how quickly this fired up. Seems a bit drier than blends I've smoked recently. Initially was getting straight toby goodness, but then got notes of fruit, sometimes alternating between berry and citrus. Worried me since this pipe had seen it's share of a couple of fruity aros a few months ago. Cherry and black raspberry. Those notes faded after several minutes. Initially I thought this a rather mild blend, but if I gave it some lead, it stoked up into a nice rich, smoke. Again I struggle to find unique descriptors for this tobacco, but it came off as just straight up tobacco goodness. Some nice black and white pepper notes, with hints of campfire when I hit the gas pedal a little.
Middle: Burn is very good. Cool smoking with soft ash. Just a couple of finger tamps needed to keep 'er going. Some nice rich nuttiness coming from this now. Perhaps walnut flavors. Occasionally getting some vanillas, which I would attribute to the tobacco and not any added flavoring. I realized as I neared the bottom of this bowl that I had yet to touch my coffee! And being outside it had already gone cold. Ah well...priorities, eh?
Bottom: This tobacco just sings to me. I realize I could probably smoke this all day long. It's very, very satisfying. Nice N level for me...guessing it is medium to medium high, but snorking the bowl didn't produce much of a tingle. I enjoyed this most sitting with hands in my pocket, pipe clenched and exhaling through my nose. Found myself a couple of times just sitting back with my eyes closed and enjoying the ride.
Overall: This is a great smoke. This could easily be an all day smoke, and I think the strength and flavors hit on all cylinders for me. Where sample 1 was a nice, mild, easy smoker too, this one sang to me. It was stronger when I wanted it to be strong, yet burned nice and cool. Mild if I sipped it, but able to deliver a thick rich smoke if I wanted it...and at times I did. Very, very good.
Guessing time: I'd originally have thought it to be VA and perhaps some burley, but when I would stoke it up, I thought there may be something else in it too. And while I didn't think there was any real flavoring in it, there were times when I got some hints of vanilla, but certainly not a smoke I would consider an strong aro. I also want to guess that this might be some OTC blend...just based on the evenness of the cut and the condition being a bit on the dry side.
I loved this as a first smoke today! In fact I could probably smoke this exclusively...although I can't picture that happening anytime soon. Could definitely be an all day smoker, and I could see myself heading off on vacation for a few days to a week and surviving with just this one tobacco. Score: 92/100...
Scott, you're definitely 2 for 2. Very nice blend. This may deserve higher than 92....I already want to go have another bowl.
I want some!
Very nice review G! I almost feel like I just got through smoking it you described it so well!
Thanks, Rew. Just a follow up note. I just took a sniff of the cold bowl on the pipe and I definitely get some vanilla and fruit notes, but, again, that may be part of the cake in the bowl. Will be interesting to see what this was.
Do we have someone on deck ? I'm sure I will be finished with these samples this weekend. If not tomorrow, then definitely on Sunday. Could get some samples out to the next player tomorrow....if I can figure out their likes/dislikes by that time.