Burley Question

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  1. MakDragon

    MakDragon Wizard of PSF

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    I hav smoked a pipe on and off for 25 years now, more off than on, and now consider myself "on". I started with the typical Captain Black WHite all those years ago and pretty much stayed with aromatics until now. I always thought the room note was as important. Then I was directed to the English tobaccos and blends that were non aromatic and am enjoying this discovery. So here's my question.... I understand burley is used in cigarettes. That being the case, does smoking them in a pipe reflect the taste and room note of cigarettes? :thankyou:
     
  2. Cobra

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    I wouldn't say it smells like cigarettes but to me it smells the least like pipe tobacco. As for taste, I find straight burley pretty bland by itself. Americans seem to like it though, I think a lot of it depends on what you were brought up with, that's my two bits on it anyway. :puffy:
     
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    WOW!! Thank you!
     
  5. jhe888

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    Sometimes burley pipe tobaccos have a little of the taste and smell of cigarettes to me. Not always, or even often, by any means, but on occasion, I get a suggestion of cigarettes in a blend with a lot of burley. I am not a big lover of burleys, but not because of that. Like someone said, they are just a bit bland.
     
  6. dmkerr

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    Actually, burleys room note reminds me of the 1960's and '70's when my dad smoked nothing but Edgeworth Ready Rubbed and Sir Walter Raleigh. Definitely a pipe smell, as least as I associate them.

    On the flip side, my kids sometimes ask me if I've lit a cigarette when they smell certain burley blends that I'm smoking.

    Straight burley can indeed be a bit bland but I'm finding out that as I discover more and more blends that I really enjoy, most of them have some burley in them. Burley can really round out a blend and change it from good to stellar.

    As an aside, virginia and turkish tobaccos are used in cigarettes as well. I remember the difference in taste between a marlboro and a winston. The latter had a sweeter flavor, due to a higher percentage of virginia tobacco. As for Turkish tobacco, last I heard, more was produced for cigarettes than pipes.

    Long, verbose way of saying I agree with Cobra - it's all in what you were brought up with. :eek:hyeah:
     
  7. woody

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    I guess I fall into the burley camp. I like Virginia blends but get more flavor and enjoyment from burley blends.
     
  8. Bri2k

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    I like PA & CH, both mostly burley blends. My girlfriend says she loves the room note from them, especially compared to my Pall Malls.
     
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    While most of our crazy Canadian cigarettes actually contain a high portion of Virginias, sadly, the room note is nothing like a VA flake, while its very, very similar to the room note of a U.S. burley based smoke, or a Chinese god-only-knows-what (mfg, of course, at the #2 Cigarette Factory) smoke, leading me to believe that its the other constituents in cigarette tobacco that cause that cigarette aroma.
     
  10. nesta

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    Maybe it's the vodka I just had a drink of, but now I'm craving a pack of Players. Canadian smokes are better than US on the whole. Ungodly expensive though, last time I bought a pack in Ontario cost me almost ten bucks.

    Next time I go visit my girl I'll have to pick up a pack on the way home...she's not a fan of cigarettes hehe...course I am in all fairness trying to get off them for good...but damn, I love Players haha
     
  11. ruffinogold

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    Cigarettes smell alot like paper to me . Burley smells most like pipe tobacco imo . Burley is a magic variety . O.k. , it's got no sugar , but thats what girls are made of right !? Burley is awesome by itself if done right [ like anything else ] and is a killer component in many blends with more than one purpose . Burley that is thin cut if added to a slow burning blend wil help it speed up . Burley absorbs flavoring best of the varietys and can take a blend thats to sweet and make it just right . Adding burley dosent create " tang " or sweetness . It's the variety that has the most uses and it's air cured ... which I think is cool . Heat it up and add some stuff to it and you got a cavendish [ Vir as well ] . Without Burley ... we wouldnt have alot of great blends . Burley can get alittle weird if the quality is low ... but so can the others . Some Vir's have so much tang or ketchup or heat [ but some people like it ] and some Orientals are just musty [ some people like that too ] ... it's all quality and how it's treated . I smoke a crap load of MB GE . It's a blend of Burleys . I could stand it to be nuttier but the nut thing is a fine balance to the funk . An example is Skandinivik . It's super nutty imo but you pay for it when the pipe is done .... stinky . MB GE is so damn clean . Tops !
     
  12. Wicklow

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    :0laugh:

    That may be the funniest unexpected thing I've read yet this year. Kudos brother!

    And MacBaren Golden Extra is truly an excellent smoke all joking aside.
     
  13. Puff The Magic

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    Rarely does a burley come through (pipe toby) as a "cigarette-like" flavor or room note but if it does, it is quick to get back on track with the nutty, chocolatey, smooth, thick goodness...........burley! What a great leaf!

    White burleys are strength & thickness builders but usually add no flavor(s) or aroma(s)

    What's real "Magic" is when you grab a nice burley and add a nice va.......SUBLIME! Then go "Ga-Ga's" and add some perique..... Ooooooo Laaa Oui! Boy dat goo-ood! ;) [cue Justin Wilson voice dub]

    Now, I have had the "toilet-cake" flavor come through towards the bottom of the bowl (pipe! NOT TERLETT!!) which can happen in some cases with burleys but I believe that's just in flavor and not room note........ I hope! :startle:

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  14. Pecci

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    I've enjoyed my Scandinavik (reg) twice so far, without a bad smell. Ruffy, regarding your comment, is it the pipe that stinks afterward or the smoke?

    Very nutty character ... is for sure!
     
  15. ruffinogold

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    I dig Skandinivik but the pipe[bowl] does smell afterward . Skan has that nutty thing goin on for sure
     
  16. Smoker99

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    A good burley will not smell or taste like a cigarette. Cig tobacco is pretty bland, and highly processed, treated. A good uncased burley will have a unique flavor and aroma.
     
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