Counterfeits

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  1. gentimmy

    gentimmy Active Member

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    The counterfeit business is HUGE in the cigar industry. I haven't heard of it before in the pipe-world, but I don't see why it wouldn't apply. Some carvers can fetch thousands of dollars for some pipes...why hasn't this caught on yet? Or has it, and I'm just ignorant of the fact?
     
  2. Lucky Duck

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    That's it!......I'm making my own....
     
  3. briarbob

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    If someone can duplicate a Dunhill, they should just start their own line of pipes.
     
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    Carving pipes takes a lot of skill and effort, to much work for a counterfeiter.
     
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  5. DGErwin11

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    +1 on briarbob. I don't know if it is possible to accurately counterfeit something like a pipe that has that much handwork in it
     
  6. gentimmy

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    Really? I feel like if it is aesthetically pleasing, you replicate a carver's stamp, and put an absurd date in the ebay listing it wouldn't be that hard.
     
  7. Stormy

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    If there is money to be made someone will try it, and a sucker born every day that will buy it. JM2C.
     
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    Several years ago, there was a wave of fake Dunhills floating around. They were good enough to fool some "so-called" experts. Ironically, now they have become collectible themselves. The late John Loring wrote an article about them here: http://loringpage.com/pipearticles/80s Fakes.htm
     
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    If you can make a counterfeit, you could very easily just market you're own brand with much less hassle. I would think..... It just doesn't make sense when a good artisan pipe maker can get a high price for his own work, and IMHO justifiably so.
     
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  10. DogTalker

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    I've wondered about the Chinese replicating Pete Patents or Dunhills...
     
  11. Thuber88

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    Maybe a nice Brylon Dunhill??:rolleyes:
     
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  12. Skrymr

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    The metal bowls are easy to spot though. :haha:
     
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  13. briarbob

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    Likely asbestos bowls "Made in China".
     
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    The "Made in Engrand" stamp was a bit of a giveaway.
     
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    There was some discussion at last year's Columbus show about Chinese buyers filing off the nomenclature of pipes and replacing it with their own stamp, then doubling prices and more by passing it off as their own. Not sure if this was just BS, but I thought it was an interesting possibility considering how unregulated and in-the-shadows the within-China market is. There would be no way to verify it.

    I did wonder if Todd Johnson's new line of pipes for the Chinese market (low prices, still hand carved but more production , classic shapes only) was a little bit of a pre-emptive strike against this kind of thing
     
  16. CaKy

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    Would 3D printing tech apply here? Sure it will someday soon.
     
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  17. Old Codger

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    It'll be a while. Materials, textures, and colours aren't there yet. Besides that, the cost per unit is another question.
     
  18. ampersand

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    Exactly what I was thinking as I read down this thread. Just a matter of time...
     
  19. Thuber88

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    How soon before they start counterfeiting tobacco's:eek:
     
  20. capt dave

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    They already make fake "other" plant products.
     
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