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First impressions of a patriot straight.

Discussion in 'Pipes' started by smokinjoe, Aug 11, 2012.

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  1. smokinjoe

    smokinjoe Member

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    Its a fine cob..I just lit her up with 1-q..........and it a good sweet flavor. I can see where it could break if abused. but its a looker for sure. next im going to try a country gentleman, any opines to the that meersham cc? I guess im in the corn craze any suggestions? keep in mind I want the wood plug bottom.

    thanks fellers

    sj
     
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  2. DGErwin11

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    The CG is a soft tail, no wood plug. And due to the Missouri heat/drought conditions, those will be hard to find.
     
  3. Spillproof

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    If it's that color MM you're after, it's either the Country Gent (which as DG noted does not have a wooden plug) or the or the Patriot.

    If you want a wooden plug pipe similar to the Patriot and don't care so much about the stain, consider the Great Dane "Spool." The spool is a bit larger than the Patriot and is not stained, but does have a wood plug. The Spool also accepts a filter; the Patriot does not.

    Any cob can be stained and prettied up - if you're into such useless pursuits:
    [​IMG]Two Washingtons, an Egg (modded into a bulldog), and a Spool.
     
  4. ShawnP

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    May also be hard to find with the drought but the 5th Ave diplomat is a nice pipe with hardwood bottom.

    Spill,

    Your making me want to stain a cob. Damn nice looking pipes.

    Shawn
     
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  5. smokinjoe

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    oh yes they are.:ohyh:splendid they are indeed!.


    BTW. Do you all think the drought will cause a shortage? Why am I not buying the drought story. " this is the worst drought in 50 years" one newsguy says. The dust bowl was in the thirties so what drought is , are they speaking of. according to my estimates that would be 1960 something.? I dont remember any thing big around that time. drought wise?. so is it a wrong choice to think this might be a fabrication to raise food prices without our really knowing?/Its off topic but merits thought. When a 12 oz soda ends up 11.25 ounces .And a two liter coke is 1.75 liters?And a pound of coffee is 14 oz/"Something aint right".I see that in my region there is alleged dry season.. Its covered in yellow but it rains every day?:cfsd: It amazes me that we can put a man on the moon , but cant or havent developed a irrigation system for agriculture. 80 acres is a heap { average personal farm.}but black plastic pipe should have worked.Something sounds like a subsidary payola sceme. But what do I know? nothing.
     
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  6. el guero

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    The diplomat is a very nice cob, my personal favorite.

    And yes it will. I would be willing to bet that the fields used to grow the MM Cobs are probably irrigated but you are only allowed to irrigate so many inches per year and so with out some rain your yields are going to be affected. Compounding the drought is the heat though, corn needs temperatures below 90 degrees during daylight to pollinate. If it is already 90 by 8 or 9 AM then they are only getting a few hours a day and so will produce less kernels and therefor smaller cobs and that was the case during the pollination period for corn this year. I don't know where you live but here in southern Oklahoma where I live we haven't had significant rain since April and unless we get some soon we will be going into the winter with out hay. If we don't have hay to feed our cows they must be fed more prepared feed which in turn requires us to sell them at a higher price to break even at the end of the year. Now as to how they package our food and if they are ripping us off I don't know but the drought is a very real thing.
     
  7. Rodfather

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    You are partially correct on your opinion of your knowledge. Come to Missouri and see thousands of acres of corn that is prematurely dead, soybeans that have no pods on them, pastures that you can see a mouse running. Go to the sale barns and see hundreds of cattle being sold because of lack of feed. I can assure that nothing is being fabricated to raise food prices at least not here in the Midwest by the hard working farmers that feed you.
     
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    Coastal Bend Get off my lawn...

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    In one report on the drought I heard that, irrigation aside, the heat was causing problems with pollination of the corn, which comes from the tassels down and also that the corn was burning up from the top down in spite of irrigation.
     
  9. DGErwin11

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    This is exactly what Marilyn told me. I suggested they buy a bunch of air conditioners.:rolleyes:
     
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    the drought is very, very real and the chances are good that it may be here to stay for a few years. As much as I love MM cobs I have probably bought my last one as I have enough small bowled pipes. Food prices and production is effected and water tables are falling to record depths via irrigation. The wells get deeper and deeper. I'm glad I don't have off spring and that I live in the wettest part of Canada.
     
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  11. smokinjoe

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    @rodfather, thanks. Thats why I asked. I know good and well farming is a hard life and care about farmers. I live in the tropics. Im glad I asked about this due to news is hard to believe sometimes.
    And thanks to everyone for good answers.
    Im not worried about pipes so much now after hearing all that. Food is a whole other issue. As you can tell I rather hear from folks than google things.
    thanks again for the facts.
    sj
     
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  12. Old Ted

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    I routinely put wood plugs in my cob bottoms, it's not difficult and I'm happier about 'poking around' with my Czech tool spike!.....but if you don't feel confident to do it - and want to send your new cob on a long flight.......:)
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. smokinjoe

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    Dang it ted, I just ordered 4 new ones from the web. I didnt see this till after..........I got three patriots and one diplomat. next time ted. If they are around.
     
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    RE Drought, from a farmer
    Ever see the trees die because they don't have enough water even at the deepest of their root structure? The grass is only green when it gets a sprinkle of rain (I've taken showers in my house that had more water) and then they die off again. There are things happening now that remind the old timers of the dustbowl. All the springs I know of out here are dry, the creek (it's more like a small river with a southern twang) that we get water from is almost dry too, and that's for the whole area. And I'm not even in the hardest hit area. This has been the pattern for several years, and its been getting worse each cycle. Ever see a steak cooked on the dash of a pickup? It was tested last year, and it worked. Same with a fried egg. On a normal day my truck was 120F. A hot day gave an example of 131 outside. I had to get digital thermometers because the mercury versions only go to 120, and then break. The digital I have only hit 140, fortunately I haven't broken one yet. Wait for the prices of food to skyrocket. The Great Depression 2 and The Dust bowl 2... I sure hope things change or that's what everyone will know, but be afraid to admit.

    Something changed the weather pattern recently, the heat is dwindling and the rain is still scarce... but I'll take 87F for a peak. I'm cold below 95, maybe I can use the sweatshirts I left in a pile, unneeded last winter...
     
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    Raff Im a florida boy. I seen a semi drought I believe in the early 80s, You was not allowed to wash a car , and there was a mercy hunt for deer in the glades.{No food}. I walked on what was chest high swamp.And lake ockeechobee fell from ten feet to 3 feet.Luckily it did not last long.
    This is a dumb question sir, But is there such a thing as cloud seeding or is it sci-fi?As far as temps something dont make sense, How can it be 85-95 way done here and hotter than two hells up yonder? As far a great depression2? I hope not, my father told me some bad stuff about those days. Grown men on soup lines. I hope your farm makes it through this.
    sj
     
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    Smokinjoe, I appreciate the sincerity and respectfulness you give to your message-however I'm likely younger than you are and being called "Sir" by my elders makes me feel weird. (insert chuckling emoticon here, the ones provided aren't always appropriately animated for a situation) I've heard rumor that a new casino has a golf course that is being watered, and I'm piping hot mad over it. It's not far from the farm, and would greatly affect the water table and could be why the wells are cutting out when watering the livestock, we now have to haul water in from town.

    It (cloud seeding) is real, and many folks here believe it went horribly wrong and caused the Joplin Tornado. Basically, when a warm front and a cold front meet they react. An object is launched high into the atmosphere and then alters the rain cloud formation (increasing it) and at that point, it's going to rain. If that artificial storm front hits a real one, or even another artificial one... they can merge, or react and have a tornado. I'm not a meteorologist so I can't state this is exactly how it happens, but rather, as I understand it to be. China has been cloud seeding for a long time, I believe it to be near a decade if not more.

    As for soup lines-we have welfare & food stamp programs that give unbacked money to the people to spend. In the time of the great depression, our money was backed by gold. Since it isn't now, it's not a problem to print more greenbacks.

    Temperatures are milder nearer the equator, and coastal areas have cool water coming which gives a cold front to stop excessive heat from setting in. Humidity is another factor, locally we have very little so the heat can sneak up on a person and they wind up with a heat stroke. I had to take a break every 15 minutes, my medication doesn't interact with THAT much heat very well. I'm grateful that my immediate family bands together to get chores done at the farm, or it wouldn't be possible. I had surgery a week ago, and still don't have enough energy to be able to get anything accomplished ... so I'm surfing the forums :D
     
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    Can I go off topic and ask how much a bail of hay costs?. its 4dollars here.. you havent been surfing xxx sites while you are recuperating are you.:moon:
     
  18. Raffxr7

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    Last I checked it's up to 5 for a square bale, and a bargain for a round bale is 30. Expect 40-50, though. None of those sites for me.
     
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    thank you raff!
     
  20. Raffxr7

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    No problem Joe! Enjoy your cobs, I've still got a few for my new tobacco trials. I don't care much for burley so I wind up disliking many popular blends-perfect for a cob to test.
     
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