There was a goodly-sized box, crammed full of toby, waiting for me in the mail today. A kindly member sent me some samples. The first one I tried was Hamborger Veermaster. All I can say is "Sweet mother of Virginny!" Granted, I've only smoked one bowl-full thus far, but the brilliance of this simple VA flake toby is obvious and it's only gonna get better. It's got that wonderful sweet hay-like quality that I've come to expect from a good VA flake, but this wonderful sweet hay-like quality is simply outstanding. Must have more!