How to stop moisture buildup (or tips on how to prevent it)

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  1. Liquidblue4

    Liquidblue4 Member

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    I've been trying to build cake in the bottom of my pipe by only smoking half bowls or 1/4 bowls using Carter Hall mostly. No matter how I fill the pipe or how I smoke it it still gets moist and gurgles pretty fast. I leave pipe cleaners in it to soak up some moisture when I'm finished, but no matter how long I let the pipe rest it still instantly becomes moist.

    So because of this, the bottom of my bowl isn't building cake... but the top has some pretty nice cake from smoking random full bowls.

    Is it the way my pipe is built or am I just doing something totally wrong here?

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  2. User3940

    User3940 Lacks Self Control

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    I have never heard of anyone having a problem with CH building moisture. Sounds like a pipe problem for sure.
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  3. Liquidblue4

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    Maybe this pic will help out in finding the problem.

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  4. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Clumsy Poop!

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    There could easily be something wrong inside the pipe, something built wrong. Can you take it apart, get a picture of the tenon, and maybe get me a picture looking down the mortise?
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  5. Liquidblue4

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    This is the best I can do. Its pretty hard to get a pic of inside there.

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  6. DGErwin11

    DGErwin11 Moderator Moderator

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    Is the end of the tenon funneled?
  7. Liquidblue4

    Liquidblue4 Member

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    nope
  8. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Clumsy Poop!

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    I would do two things. First, funnel the end of the tenon, this can be accomplish with a counter-sink drill bit.

    Second, if the tenon is almost the same length as the mortise, it might be interfering with the smoke coming out of the airway - as you point out in the photo, the actual hole is a little "high" in the mortise. This isn't a problem unless the tenon is getting right up and blocking it a bit - so you could try smoking the pipe with the stem pulled out a little bit ...1/8" or so... and if the pipe smokes better then the tenon would need shortening. But if the tenon is not close to the mortise length, then the funnel should help a lot.
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  9. Liquidblue4

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    So just drill this into a funnel?

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  10. DGErwin11

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    Yes. But don't use a drill. You should be able to turn the countersink by hand.
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  11. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Clumsy Poop!

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    Yep - if you get that thing to be a nice concave shape a lot of your problems will go away I think.
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  12. Liquidblue4

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    is there an alternative to a countersink?
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  14. DGErwin11

    DGErwin11 Moderator Moderator

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    If you are careful, a sharp knife will work. Or the next size larger drill bit.
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  15. jdto

    jdto Good day, eh!

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    A question about this: should I wait until my pipes are more broken in before bothering to try the funnel thing? I have a couple that gurgle, but they're still building cake and haven't been smoked more than a dozen times each.
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  16. DGErwin11

    DGErwin11 Moderator Moderator

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    It won't hurt to funnel them now. I funnel all my tenons during the making process. Bill (kwguy) weighed in on another thread that funneling will solve most moisture problems. He funneled the tenons on our POY's. I'm pretty sure Sas does too. If it is good enough for those 2, who am I to argue?
  17. Moose

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    This is some good information, thanks for providing it. And thanks JRobert for your research on the link you provided. The picture cleared up the process for me.

    There is information everywhere here, you just got to grab it. Thanks to all.
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  18. jason1977

    jason1977 Your friendly Palmetto State Piper

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    Is this something that happened recently? Were u smoking inside or outside? If you were outside, it could very well be the heat outside & humidity in the air. I don't smoke ANY of my briers outside from June til October. I get gurgly, briers don't handle the south carolina humidity as well as a cob ;) I smoke cobs in the late spring / beginning of fall. I have fought it & fought it & that's just the way it is.
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  19. Malcontent

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    I countersink my tenons as a general practice. Why wait to see if there is a problem?
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  20. jdto

    jdto Good day, eh!

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    I did a few of them and will test to see if I notice an improvement.
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