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need help with a estate kirsten

Discussion in 'Pipes' started by hansel, Oct 4, 2012.

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  1. hansel

    hansel Member

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    just got a kirsten very cheaply off ebay, all is good but i cant get the valve of the end of the pipe. this thing was smoked hard and put away wet.

    any tips on how to unstick the valve, i dont want to use pliers cause ill mare up the aluminum,
     
  2. vibhakti

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    I'm not a pro at restorations, but I'm thinking a pipe retort might help. The alcohol steam should loosen things up (and make further cleaning easier). Feel free to correct me, though.
     
  3. 1858remington

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    Ah the valve... here's the trick.. remove the stem and bowl and soak the body off the pipe in everclear or 151 rum.
    Do not try to force the valve or it will marr badly
    let it soak for a couple hours to break down the tar thats glued it in place.
     
  4. 1858remington

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    now, you probably want to know what generation Kirsten you have.
    First generation has no O-ring on either the stem or the valve.
    Second generation has an O-ring on either the stem or the valve, but not on both.
    Third and current generation, has the O-ring on both the stem and the valve.
     
  5. hansel

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    im not sure what gen it is. it doesnt say anything about patents anywhere on the pipe, but it does have a o ring on the stem, i got a hell of deal on it. got it off ebay and it had a buy it now price of ten bucks so i was like why not, but its no where as cool as that falcon i got from ya.
     
  6. SmokeyJoe

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    Thanks for the info. Just learned that mine's 3rd gen!
     
  7. Demosthenes

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    What I have always done with a stuck valve is put the pipe in a vise (wrapped in a soft cloth of course) put a new pencil through the mouthpiece side with the eraser towards the valve, give the other end a couple good wacks with a hammer, then walk over to the other side of the room and pick up the valve off the floor. Soaking it never has worked for me and this is quick and no dammage done.
     
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  8. Skiballa

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    I have restored a few, I usually just dissassemble everything I can, then heat up the body with a lighter. After that I push a dowel through and pop the valve out. Works like a charm.
     
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