SG Full Virginia Flake

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  1. DublinBecker

    DublinBecker Member

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    How do you guys like to enjoy your SG FVF? fold-and-stuff or rubbed out? in what kind of pipe (chamber shape)?

    I find this flake impossible to keep lit in fold-and-stuff form in a pipe with a narrow, conical shaped chamber (which I'd think is optimal for smoking flakes), even after half a day's drying time in open air. Granted, it has been quite muggy here in the Northeast, but the wetness of the tobacco is really unusual...
     
  2. furious

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    when in doubt, rub it out...
     
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  3. Jeebs

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    Wet...that's SG for ya...u could always try chewing....
     
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  4. BradNTX

    BradNTX Well-Known Member

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    I smoke it folded & stuffed, but in a 3/4", fairly tall, flat bottom, not conical. I don't have any small bore, conical shaped bowls. I do have a 13/16" conical bore bowl, but I cannon ball it in that one. Too large for fold & stuff. Either way, gettting the initial charring light(s) down is what keeps it lit for me.
     
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  5. cakeanddottle

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    I like Gawith flakes partially rubbed out, to about a broken flake consistency. Drying them is key. Fresh BBF and FVF can use about 2 hours on the table before you pack a bowl.
     
  6. Mington

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    I usually rub it out, but then again I usually rub out most of my flakes.
     
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  7. jdto

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    I have been rubbing it out and that works for me.
     
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  8. KMahoney

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    I'll have to try rubbing it out. I just received 4 tins in the mail and have only smoked a couple of flakes but so far I much prefer GAF. I couldn't keep it lit even after 6 hours of dry time unless I was really puffing on it. At that point it lost all flavor and started to bite.
     
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  9. WyoBob

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    I dis-assemble FVF as much as I can so it fits in a coffee "chopper" and change it from flake to more of a cube cut. I then place the ground FVF on a file folder to dry.

    I'm finishing up a jar of FVF that was gifted to me just over a year ago. I jarred it right off the bat. It sure didn't loose any moisture in the jar. I swore of FVF due to the very high moisture content which makes the high cost of the tobacco even higher. Actually, I prefer LNF to FVF, especially when price is taken into consideration.

    WyoBob
     
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  10. muddler

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    I dry my SG flakes to just this side of crisp & then rub them out.
     
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    Nice.
     
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    I rub all flakes out. For some reason my mind tells me that it's more flavourful.. Smokes evenly and I luv the ritual.

    Edit** I use to Z pak my flakes until I started to meticulously dismantle them.
     
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  13. DublinBecker

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    Thanks for all the suggestions guys. It looks like most of you rub it out. For some reason I had thought that the fold-and-stuff method is the best way to enjoy a flake, and the way flakes are intended to be smoked...
     
  14. cakeanddottle

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    The problem with fold and stuff is that it works OK with less substantial German flakes, but denser English flakes you'll get a two hour smoke out of a group 3. The effect is similar to over packing your pipe, IMO.
     
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  15. Stonewall

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    I rub my flakes out in two stages; well rubbed and broken flake consistency. I load the larger broken flake portion first and the finer tobacco toward the top.
     
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    I have a preference for fold and stuff with flakes but I haven't smoked FVF since I started folding and stuffing. SG does tend to be on the damp side
     
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  17. FlatbushPaul

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    I like to fully rub out my SG flakes and I do not dry FVF out much at all. I treat it the same as Stonehaven. The one thing I am very cognizant about though is not over packing. I leave it light and tamp to good, springy pack after charring.
     
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  18. dmkerr

    dmkerr PG- free since '83! Moderator

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    FVF is one I rub out, same with BBF. Come to think of it, I rub out more than I fold and stuff, but it depends on the blend.
     
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    I rub out all my flakes, including FVF. I've tried the fold and stuff method on various flakes and, even with some drying time, I can't keep them lit. Smoked my first bowl of pipe tobacco more than 20 yrs. ago so maybe you really CAN'T "teach an old dog new tricks".
     
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  20. BradNTX

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    Smoking how you enjoy it is most important, but people shouldn't give up on fold & stuff so easily. Practice will alleviate the relight issues and the flavor benefits are worth it. I smoke flakes a little moist and live the fuller flavor of F & S, and seldom relight.
     
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