Sterilising Mason Jars

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  1. Badcompany

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    Hello Forum,
    Has anyone used the sterillising tablets you use for babies bottles.
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  2. Stoked

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    No, but I'm sure you know that if you boil for 15 minutes (empty) that's all that's needed for mason jars. As long as your jars are clean I think sterilizing them is an overkill for toby.



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  3. bandlwalmer

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    Sorry for not answering the question, but I have one of my own. I have been just washing the mason jars, letting them dry and filling them. I just started boiling the lids, should I also boil the jars or is that not necessary? The jars are older jars that my grandma and now my wife and I have used for canning. Kinda neat to see the old jars getting use!
     
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    Me, personally, I'm too paranoid about botulism and other nasties growing on my toby from improper canning that boiling, or at least washing in the dishwasher on super face-melting hot, is an absolute must.
     
  5. Stoked

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    Once you open a tin of tobacco, even if it had been sterilized prior to being sealed, it is no longer sterile.

    I have kept open tins, with the plastic lid on them (McC) inside of a humidor for upwards of five years and have never had any problems with anything growing on, or in the cans.

    **** doesn't grow on tobacco like it was food. :)




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  6. Badcompany

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    Anyone tried sterilising there Mason jars in the microwave.
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    That's good to know. I've seen it mold, but you really have to screw up your storage to get that. I still recommend boiling or at least making sure the jars are good and clean. "It's better safe than sorry".
     
  8. Fredrik

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    For proper sterilization you need a temperature in excess of 120°C for 15 min (actually, to nuke prions I think it's more like 60 min, but unless you're a Papua New Guinea cannibal you probably don't have to worry about that :whistle:) and as water boil at 100°C you need a pressure vessel like an autoclave for that. However, boiling in water for fifteen minutes will kill most vegetative bacteria and inactivate viruses which should be enough for this purpose ;)
     
  9. Fredrik

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    D'oh! I forgot to mention that boiling wont kill spores. For that you'll need the autoclave.
     
  10. Puff The Magic

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    Ok, I guess I'm "on".....

    To sterilize, for a non-metal object (glass, the lid that has the soft rubber-like ring, any non-metal) and "lumened" objects (like a glass or metal or rubber tube/hose) it takes 270 deg F under 15cm psi for 10 minutes.........as long as the item was clean to begin with.

    To sterilize metal, non lumened, it takes the above process but only 3 minutes.

    To kill prions, you can't. Prions are not living. They are a strand of DNA/RNA and the only way to "nix" prions (as far as I know, as an OR RN, who autoclaved each shift I was on duty) you have to "denature" the protein (DNA/RNA prion). AND make the sure the denaturing is permanent. So, many facilities use tons of disposable "gear" when dealing with Creutzfeldt Jacobs Disease (Mad Cow, NOT Mad Mr MOO :thumbsu:) then that goes to incineration under extreme temp (cremation like temps).

    As for the simpler life of the piper/jarrer :whistle:, just start off with clean hardware, clean hands, and go! If you wish to boil your jars, lids & rings, have at it. It'll be just that much cleaner.

    If for some reason, you find non-white "growths" that are fuzzy, toss it. Don't wanna be smokin' no green & fuzzies!

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