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Tobacco storage jars fail

Discussion in 'Pipe Tobacco' started by KarlMaldenNose, Mar 21, 2013.

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  1. KarlMaldenNose

    KarlMaldenNose Member

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    I have transferred most of my tobacco from their tins into Mason jars for longterm storage. I think you call them Ball or Bell jars in the U.S. Maybe those are just brand names, but you guys know what I mean. Anyway, most of the blends I've been smoking from the jars lately have obviously suffered significant moisture loss, IMO. I like my 'baccy more on the moist end of the spectrum, that way I can dry it to my specifications. I checked all the lids and they were tight and free of bits of tobacco that might compromise a tight seal. None of the jars are older than June 2012, as that is when I started smoking and cellaring.

    Is this a common occurance or do I need to switch brands?
     
  2. Jimmy Bukowski

    Jimmy Bukowski Active Member

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    I've never had a problem. Usually if I don't open the jar in a few days I need to pry the lid to break the seal. However I am fairly new to the game so hopefully a more experienced piper can chime in.
     
  3. Morse

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    The first question i would ask is - How full are the jars? I.e. whats the air to tobacco ratio? The more air, the drier the tobacco is going to get - it will eventually reach an equilibrium but if there is a lot of air, every time you open the jar, the tobacco is likely to a dry out a bit more as the jar gets to equilibrium again. For long term cellaring I fill the jars as full as possible. For jars I am using or smoking from, once they get to about 50% full I move the tobacco to a smaller jar.
     
  4. KarlMaldenNose

    KarlMaldenNose Member

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    That makes sense. Most of the jars are filled only to 50% capacity or less. I wonder if, instead of buying a new batch of smaller jars, keeping my current jars in a sealer container with some sort of humidification device would help.
     
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  5. Morse

    Morse Active Member

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    I have used those little humidifier disks with good results
     
  6. KarlMaldenNose

    KarlMaldenNose Member

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    Yeah, me too. I have a large bail-top jar that I keep all my sample baggies in. I found that they were getting dried out pretty quickly so I threw in one of those little perforated disks with cotton or sponge inside to hold water. Worked great. Works great, I should say. Except that I have to keep refreshing the disk every week or so.
     
  7. ShawnP

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    I have a pretty good bit of tobacco in about 24 or so jars and none of them have been drying out. As said above any time I go to open one I need to pop the seal. Have you noticed this with all of your jars? If not and it's only 1 or 2 maybe replace the lids>??

    Shawn
     
  8. dmkerr

    dmkerr PG- free since '83! Moderator

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    I use Kerr jars and lids. You can't go wrong with something named Kerr. It's an indisputable fact!

    If ya wanna be sure,
    gotta go with a Kerr.

    I'll say it again - Kerr!!!! :D

    But truthfully, the brand doesn't matter. Morse nailed it - if your jars aren't full, the air inside will make the tobacco a bit drier.
     
  9. t-bear

    t-bear Well-Known Member

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    It sounds like you're smoking from your storage jars...WTF?!? "Storage" by it's very name means "put it away and leave it alone!" Any time you open a jar, you introduce air....air dries tobacco....don't open! If you want to smoke your tobacco, put it in small jars, like jelly jars or those flat, 6 ounce Ball/Mason jars. Remember...big jars = storage, while small jars are for smoking. They should hold your tobacco fairly moist for a few weeks............
     
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  10. Pecci

    Pecci Active Member

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    Hey DM ... what kind of jar was that, again?
     
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  11. dmkerr

    dmkerr PG- free since '83! Moderator

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    Hang on, lemme go check.
     
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  12. dmkerr

    dmkerr PG- free since '83! Moderator

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    Kerr jars. Yeah, I knew it was something vaguely familiar....
     
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  13. bosun

    bosun Active Member

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    I get a pound, I fill up a quart sized jar as much as I can, pushing the tobacco in as much as I can. What doesn't fit in the jar is what I smoke. If I open up the jar I decant it into two smaller jars and smoke them. Ideally if I smoke a fair amount of one tobacco I'll always have some that didn't fit in the jar and keep cellaring the rest..
     
  14. KarlMaldenNose

    KarlMaldenNose Member

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    What you write makes sense. The need for smaller jars for my on-the-go blends is kind of what Morse was getting at: too much air+too little baccy=dry baccy=cranky KarlMaldenNose.

    Oddly I'm not having to "pop" or pry the lids when I open the jars. They come off fairly readily.
     
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