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Tobacco storage: Tin ---> Mason jar

Discussion in 'Pipe Tobacco' started by bubbagump, Feb 11, 2013.

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  1. bubbagump

    bubbagump Well-Known Member

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    So...I bought a couple tins of tobacco. For some reason, I was thinking that the tobacco (12 oz per) would take up more space, so I bought 1 quart jars (should have gone with 8oz). Instead, I've got one jar with 12 oz of tobacco (packed in good).

    For long-term storage...am I better off packing the tobacco in tight to get as little air in the container as possible...rather than packing it loosely into two jars? I had hoped to end up with one container for long-term storage and one for short-term (to top off my weekly stash). It looks like I'll have to get smaller jars to accomplish that.

    Edit: Correction...i'm a dummy. The total volume of a one quart mason jar (assuming you pile it to the top) is 32 oz.
     
  2. GlassEye

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    generally, about 2oz tobacco fits in 8oz. (volume) jar
     
  3. bubbagump

    bubbagump Well-Known Member

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    Are you loosely packing the tobacco to achieve that 2oz tobacco per 8oz jar...or is that pressing it down? I piled 12 oz of tobacco in a ~24 oz container. Should I pack that down into two one quart jars?

    Edit: Correction...i'm a dummy. The total volume of a one quart mason jar (assuming you pile it to the top) is 32 oz.

    Lesson learned...I don't need 1 qt jars. Now I have to figure out what the hell I'm going to do with a dozen of them, lol.
     
  4. AussieTX

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    I'd also be interested to see if there is any preferred method to packing them in the jars, some I have packed in there real tight while others i've packed in loosely. Haven't been aging them long enough to tell any difference at this stage.
     
  5. user3610

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    I too have wondered abou this...cue old guy advice...
     
  6. bubbagump

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    One thing I'll say...there's a night and day difference (in terms of in jar aroma) between the Captain Black regular/white I just opened vs. my 1+ month old stuff that's been sitting in a tupperware container. I noticed my 1Q aroma fade as well (again...tupperware container).

    I would imagine that this was due to a combination of factors: 1. The containers being constantly opened, 2. Tupperware isn't airtight, and 3. When left in a loose packed container, there is a greater volume of oxygen than with a container that is packed full of tobacco.
     
  7. user3610

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    I would think pack it as tight as possible to preserve, but then again when you get a tin- they're not packed super-tight.
     
  8. AussieTX

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    I'd say that depends on the brand and blend. Some tins seem to be packed pretty tight (most of the Petersons for example) but then something like the H&H tins are packed quite loosely.
     
  9. derrickyoung

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    From G.L. Pease interview on pipedia
     
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  10. AussieTX

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    Any input on what, if any difference how tight the tobacco is packed into the jar makes?
     
  11. user3610

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    I think we're supposed to gather from the interview that some air is good if not necessary. Therefore super-tight packing = not good.
     
  12. bubbagump

    bubbagump Well-Known Member

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    If that were the case, vendors wouldn't push the idea of vacuum sealing bulk orders.;)
     
  13. user3610

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    ...unless they figure everyone's just going to jar them up. ;)
     
  14. FlatbushPaul

    FlatbushPaul Cellar is in an undisclosed Bunker

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    I use qt jars for bulk storage. I put about 8 oz of flake in a qt jar, a little less of ribbon cut. I try to leave a little air on top of the tobacco. For tins, I use pt size jars. 50 gms doesnt fill it too much but I don't want to use too many different size jars. They are harder to store then. I usually leave them in the cardboard box that they come in, so I can stack them easier. 100 gm tins fit just right in the pt size jars. I buy the plastic lids for jars that I open to smoke from so I don't have to deal with the 2 piece lids every time I want to grab some to smoke.
    This works for me.
     
  15. phinz

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    I pack almost a pound into a quart jar. Has worked for me so far.
     
  16. JRobert

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    I pack jars as tightly as I can for long-term storage. Even tightly packed there is still some air. I use small jars (4 oz) for smoking "soon" -- if I take tobacco out of a larger jar to refill the "soon" jar, and the remainder will fit in a smaller jar, I move it and pack it as tightly again. I don't use a hydraulic press or anything, I just put a canning funnel in the top of the jar and use my hands to press the tobacco in as tightly as I can. Too much air allows the tobacco to dry prematurely, in my opinion. One pound usually fits in three 16-oz jars.

    This discussion comes up often. I don't think anyone really knows "the answer." The best anyone can say is "has worked for me so far" -- but that's good enough for me. GLP recommends leaving tobacco in the tins for aging. All the tins I have opened have been tightly packed.
     
  17. bosun

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    I've just started cellaring so I have no first hand knowledge of aging. Two pounds of Epiphany (C & D ribbon cut) fills three quart size large mouth mason jars with a little left over to smoke now. I fill as much as I can, compress with my knuckles, and do it again until it is as full as possible. There will still be a good deal of air in between the strands so I don't think that is a concern. Like Flatbush Paul I also keep the jars in their original 'box' (flat) for ease of stacking, and you can put a post-it-note in between the cardboard and the plastic so you'll know what's in the stack of flats!
     
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    Nice!
     
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