Cigar tobacco in pipe - experiment

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  1. Jive Dadson

    Jive Dadson Member

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    I have been playing around with cigar blends. I tried C&D Habana Daydream, which is a very nice smoke, but only vaguely cigar-like if at all. I also got some "cigar leaf" from Pipes and Cigars dot com and tried mixing it. Even smoked straight (which I do not recommend), it is not very cigarish either. I speculated that the problem, if one could call it that, is that the flavor and aroma of a cigar comes mostly from the wrapper. I could not find any loose cigar wrapper tobacco on the retail market. Therefore I decided to sacrifice one pretty high quality cigar to science. Well, the top third of one at least. The stogie was a La Gloria Cubana Serie R that I picked up at the local brick and mortar. I was advised that it is very strong.

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    As a control, I first smoked a bit of an intact cigar using the pipe as a cigar holder. It tasted and smelled exactly like a cigar - a strong one as advertized. Next I cut a third off of one, rubbed it out, and filled the pipe bowl. There was a huge difference. While distinctly more cigar-like than the bulk cigar leaf, it was quite different from the cigar itself. I will leave it to you all to speculate on why there was so much difference. It was not ghosting from the pipe, I am quite sure. The tobacco was strong enough to overpower an infestation of Caspers of biblical proportion.

    I am left with the conclusion that achieving a convincing cigar-note in a pipe tobacco, if possible, is not straight-forward. I am also left with a spinning head and slight nausea. I am a reformed cigarette smoker who probably never completely broke the nicotine habit, but that cigar toback in a pipe knocked me on my recliner.
     


  2. yinyang

    yinyang Some rim charring is to be expected.

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    I don't know if you're still looking for wrapper leaf, but check here:

    http://www.leafonly.com

    They have most constituent tobaccos.
     
  3. Jive Dadson

    Jive Dadson Member

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    I was aware of that site. I have not delved into it deeply, but it appears the tobacco there is not processed beyond curing. No casing or fermentation. I doubt that it would be usable as is. My tongue does not have the courage to test it.
     
  4. kb7get

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    Ain't this normal? I don't smoke cigars often, but when I do I also usually jam the left over butt into a pipe to finish it off..

    "Waste naught, cough alot"
     
  5. dmkerr

    dmkerr PG- free since '83! Moderator

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    Sure hope you don't find coffee-flavored aromatics lacking in real coffee taste. Let me tell you - the real thing doesn't burn well! :D
     
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  6. FlatbushPaul

    FlatbushPaul Cellar is located in an undisclosed bunker

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    The wrapper on a cigar gives off the majority of its distinct flavor. If you crumbled up the wrapper it probably just got lost in the mixture. Cigar rolling is an art form for a reason. Wrapper, long leaf and filler all play a roll.

    Paul
     
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  7. NBPipe

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    You are my hero for subjecting yourself to this experiment in the name of discovery! Hilarious AND necessary for those who like cigar leaf in their blends. I personally enjoy a blend named Wall Street that has cigar leaf and a tasty cigar aroma to it. I'd be happy to send some your way if you are so inclined.
     
  8. Jive Dadson

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    Thank you for the kind offer. I think I will decline. I am off on other tangents now.
     
  9. NBPipe

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    Please continue your experiments as they are very entertaining :th1:
     
  10. user1975

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    The difference in flavor between smoking a cigar, and the same cigar leaf in a pipe might be in the difference in combustion properties between the two. You can read this, and get an idea of what I'm talking about. http://www.apassionforpipes.com/classic-blog-posts/the-thermodynamics-of-pipe-smoking.html
    The post was touching on the differences you can detect in a blend lit by a match, and a lighter, but he does mention the different combustion properties of the two.
     
  11. Dondi

    Dondi Active Member

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    I tried that, putting the butt end of a cigar into a pipe, and though the cigar had smoked beautifully, in the pipe it game me extreme tongue bite! I must have been puffing too hard... :(
     
  12. Monkeyshine

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    A burley blend with some added cigar leaf has become one of my recent go to's, Storm Front. It can be purchased from 4noggins. I don't generally get much enjoyment from cigars, and that could just be the few cheap cigars I've sampled, but Storm Front is a fantastic smoke. I highly recommend it. The blend description says it includes cigar leaf.
     
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  13. MacNutz

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    I will have to give Storm Front a try. I'm most fond of cigars but can't afford the ones worth smoking. I've tried Habana DayDream, just one bowl, and did not taste the cigar leaf.
     
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