The fold and stuff thing takes time. I love it but only use that method when I'm sitting about and not distracted by anything else. I think Erinmore Flake might be a good starting point for fold and stuff as it is a smaller flake that isn't too moist out of the tin. Not to be confused with Erimore Mixture. I sometimes think of fold and stuff as a codger thing as it helps to be retired and have time to deal with it until you get it down. Even then it requires some attention. For me, it is worth the effort.