I'm wondering what Aros bite Y'all . I have had good luck w/ them

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  1. ruffinogold

    ruffinogold Ruffinogold-Mayor, I.R.G.E.--At Large. Mayor

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    I was just reading a thread about how Aros bite and are yucky and hot etc .. :dh2:. Heres what I'm wondering , being I've had great luck with Aros , is what Aro blends bite you guys ? The ones that bit me were Borkum Riff and Middletons Apple . Middletons Cherry bit me when I was 14 years old but so did Coke a Cola . I find Aros , in general , to be super cool smoking smokes . Maybe the ones I like are just the better Aro blends ... I dont get it and am just trying to see if many of you Aro yucksters are smoking the same few blends or is it something else . I would love to help correct any problem people have w/ Aros , being I enjoy them about half the time . I'm sure in some cases , a correction isnt an answer cause somebody just wont like Aros , Kinda like I dont like Lakelands [ which are Aros btw ... just soap flavored ones ] . So , which ones are killn you ?
     


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    Captain Black burns the fu-oops I mean bejeezus out of my tongue.

    Middleton's apple and cherry if I am not careful...all Middleton's products if I am not careful actually.

    Never had the Borkum Riff.

    CAO Cherry Bomb if I really push it.

    Mostly I have had good luck, especially with toasted Cavendish aromatics that weren't full of PG.
     
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  3. OldSouled65

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    Any Captain Black besides the white.

    Any Borkum Riff

    Any Smokers Pride at all

    Some of Mac Baren's more aromatic smokes.
     
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  4. Arkie

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    It goes without saying Paladin was the worst. Borkum Riff has since the 1980 versions. All the MacBaren's aros have a slight bite. Amphora and Flying Dutchman bit although they tasted so wonderful I smoked them regardless. Pease's Barbary Coast, Sillem's Black and Reiner's Copper Label bite if more than one pipeful per day is smoked. I really can't give a qualified opinion about Captain Black's ability to bite because I couldn't get past the cloying, sickeningly sweet artificial flavor long enough to get bitten.
     
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  5. Dave Dueck

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    Haven't had much of a problem with tongue bite with any blend, aro or English, cheap or spendy, since I got my basic technique down :) :bing:
     
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    If I don't take it easy, Autumn Evening will bite the crap out of me. It's better if I let it dry a while, but I'm usually too impatient for that.
     
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    I was under the impression that not all bite is a result of hot smoke, that some bite could be from a chemical reaction between some chemicals used in some casings and the tongue. I feel as though I have my technique pretty well down. And I occasionally get bit. The last couple of days I've been smoking PS Cinnamon and had no issues, really enjoyed the smoke. Today I smoked Uhles Par Shooter which is also cinnamon flavored and got bit. I don't think that I smoked any differently than I have been. I'm not sure what caused it, but I don't think it had anything to do with my technique. What was different, now that I think about it, was I had several re-lights with the Par Shooter. Maybe that was the culprit. Anyone have any ideas?
     
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    Had an Edward's cherry blend burn the devil out of me. Wasn't my technique, as I smoked a nice bowl of CBW after and didn't have a lick of trouble... I've tried that Edward's blend in three pipes and got burned in each of them. :confused: Don't really have much trouble with other aromatics I smoke...

    I think you have it D-Pap, sometimes individual chemistry comes into the mix, though I have no evidence other than hearsay and personal experience.
     
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    I have been bitten only by Captain Black Cherry... whoa nasty!
    The Sutliff blends were very tasty and I had no troubles with.
     
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    C&D Autumn Evening and BLue Note. But I love Blue Note!
     
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    Autumn Evening bit me but that's about it for aro 's.
     
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    If you like the flavor of AE, try McClellands Town Topic.
     
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    Thanks. I did like the flavor so I'll have to hunt that one down.
     
  14. dmkerr

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    Holiday Express bit me hard, but aros don't usually bite me. I find aromatics to be pretty soft on the palate.
     
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    The cheap :poop: they put in plastic ziplock bag and sell as $value tobacco.
     
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    Classic cases of YMMV here. Autumn Evening is one aro, along side 1-Q, that I can actually smoke that does not bite me.
     
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    I had read once that some people are sensitive to PG . I think I read it in a study that was looking at Ecigs . Ecigs use PG as the " Juice " that makes the vapor . It was a small % of people that have issues w/ it but none the less , it exists . Ecigs can use a VG .. vegtable . I realize that some tobacco bites , no doubt . So looking at what y'all have written so far , it would be safe to assume that Autum Evening might be one to sample first before buying a bunch of it . CB seems to be about a 50/50 chance [ The Cherry is probably a higher chance ] .
    Surely you dont mean the Smokers Pride Black Cavendish ?! I cant get it to bite and I've tried . I'm suprised but there you have it .. it bites ya ! Crazy

    I havent had a bite w/ Sutliff blends other than Spinaker , which was a Satan sandwhich :eek:

    As far as the Cloying or wet type Aro blends , I think I can help w/ those . First off , know that most all blends have some humicant to one point or another . Few blends use distilled water and , oddly enough , I havent had one I like . Dry nasty stuff to me . Anyway , I smoke an Aro blend that is the wettest blend I've ever smoked . It bubbles at times and is a trip .. but I've been able to smoke it w/ out it getting hot or even very warm . The thing is , Ya cant expect a wet Aro to light up and smoke , like say a rubbed Va . Those type aros take more time and need to be lit slower . We see many here talk about taking it easy while smoking the pipe . It's most true w/ wet Aromatics . I'm not saying that if you get bit w/ an Aro that youre a spazz . I'm saying that an Aro needs to be a relaxing mello thing if it's a wet one . Personaly , I'm a slight spazz smoker . I mean I can suck down a bowl of an OTC in no time flat ... If I pack it alittle loose ... forget about it ! The drier type Aro Otc is what I'm talkin about here .. [ CH/MCB/SWR etc ] those drier blends get warmer when packed loose , which is what I think is the culprit more often than not . The wet Aros shouldnt be packed tightly , or maybe even normaly , depending on how you pack/fill a pipe . The " wet ones " can be packed a bit looser cause they need some room w/ all that mostiure . I aint saying loose as a goose , just looser , maybe . I know I'll sound like a reverse snob if I were to say that .. in order to enjoy many Aromatics , you have to be a seasoned pipe smoker . I mean no disrespect if your a seasoned dude and ya get bit by an Aro ... lets face it ... some are gonna bite anybody and , as has been mentioned , chemistry as well . Seasoned is someone thats smoked all types of blends and has them nailed down . You dont have to be seasoned to smoke Aros or any other type tobacco . I'm a seasoned Burley smoker if ever there was . Thats my main smoke . But I enjoy , some through time , all types of blends and I can honestly say that I'm seasoned in Burleys , Va , Flakes , English styles , Aros , Ribbon Cuts and most all cuts except the ones that look like turds and blocks . Basicly I've smoked every damn thing there is , as far as types and styles and over a 30+ year period have nailed them . The good thing is that I enjoy alot of stuff which is why I always say .. tobacco = some suck , most are good and some are great . It's the truth .. most blends of any type are , at the least , good .The people that make blends arent gonna waste time and money making blends that are bad , though they make some that are .
    My point to all this crap I'm writing is that , imo , the pack job is probably more the issue than the spazz aspect , as far as the lame Aro experience . People go on about how you have to let a blend dry out , which takes time and thought , or how a blend needs to be rubbed or cannonballed etc ... all of which are efforts taken in order to enjoy a smoke . However , there is never any talk about an Aromatic and the efforts needed to smoke them because it seems we expect an Aro to be packed in there and lit up w/out thought . Like any other style , they have their " thing ' that you have to nail down . BTW , as an Aro lover , Altadis is the master of Aros ..... I know Altadis gets a bum wrap and out of the over 100 blends they make .. some suck . But as far as Aro flavors go ...... nobody else is even close . Sorry for the long rant ... it just poured out my head and I'm sure if I re read it ... I would write it to make more sense
     
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  18. Dave Dueck

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    I'm pretty sure based on experiences of others that tongue bite can't be avoided by technique alone. I just haven't had a blend in the last 6-7 months since I "settled in" that pained my palate.
     
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    Borkum Riff (any)
    Paladin in the new package does, the old kind didn't and I was actually fond of it. They changed something about it along with the packaging, maybe an additive to keep it fresher.
    Middleton's Cherry used to until I learned how to smoke it. Now I like it alot.
     
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    Yeah , Borkum Riff is a good chance for being hot and I , like you ... dig Cherry Blend . Btw , if you like Paladin [ old ] I think you'd flip over Sutliff St. George Blend . It's what Paladin wished it was , imo ... a nice " black cherrish " flavor . Ice cold smoker as well
     
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