There are plenty of machine-made class dropouts sitting over on the group W bench....the misfits, the ill educated, the crazy, the ones that defy any and all reasoning, the ones that would sooner cut you than give you a good smoke (that group w bench is populated with mother rapers...father stabbers....father rapers). A classic example is the Phillies blunt. I found cellophane inside one of those once. On two separate occasions, actually. And then there are the graduates, those that are respectable, responsible, will perform their duties for society and fulfill their job adequately. These cigars are not antisocial, and they are not going to totally shirk their responsibilities....but they are not the elite, they are not professors, leaders of industry, innovators or anything of the sort. They got their high school diploma and went straight to work without further refinement. Nothing wrong with that - they're honest, hardworking cigars and that's why I love them. Muniemakers. Parodi. You know, decent smokes, but they're never going to command the kinds of salaries the La Flor Dominicanas of the world will.... But I've recently revisited Garcia y Vega English Coronas. I bought a four pack, and I just finished it tonight. I hadn't had these in a while. These are tricky, they're sort of....well.....they were held back a grade or two, dropped out, but went back and got their GED....they are smokeable, but only just barely. They ARE above the group w bench lot, but they are not in the same league as Muniemaker or Parodi or even Antonio y Cleopatra. They burn too fast, every cap I got was busted (and they were tubed!), they burn hot and thin, they are sickly sweet though unflavored...and they cost as much as or more than a number of cigars which are at least twice as good in my opinion. They can be smoked, but the question must be asked: why bother? If someone comes by your house and abducts you to take you fishing and you find yourselves without any smokes and you stop at a gas station, and if this gas station doesn't sell Grenadiers or Parodis or anything like that.....chances are you can get some Garcia y Vega. And you can light up one or two and smoke them. You aren't likely to throw up or be turned off of cigars entirely forever. But if you have any reasonable alternative, go for that. It is not that I hate these cigars, because I don't. It's just that I have absolutely no reason to ever smoke them again. I probably will anyway in a few years when I forget what they're like and think "maybe I'll give those a shot," and then come to the same conclusion all over again. But as long as I can remember what I've learned over the course of this package of cigars, I don't think I'll be buying any more. If you like em, more power to you....but I don't like them. Also, as an aside, I hope not to offend anyone based on my comparisons regarding different levels of education. I don't mean to be demeaning to any group, though I'm sure it may have come across that way...I'm drawing upon caricatures and generalizations, and do not actually think of the groups of people mentioned as genuinely living up to these categorizations.