So I'm smoking some PS LBF...

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and about midway through the bowl, I start getting some Chinese Black Tea notes(??). Not just in passing... like most of the rest of the smoke. It wasn't overpowering at all. It was an underlying profile that I was not expecting in my admittedly limited experience with the wonderful stuff.
 

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Well, living in small town Wyoming, I have no idea what Chinese Black Tea notes are. Probably not something I can play on my banjo:)

I didn't care for LBF when I tried it 2-3 years ago. I did like LNF and LTF and LNF is my mainstay. I recently bought a small amount of LBF and liked it and will buy some more. I'm not astute enough to pick out flavors or being able to describe them (being limited in worldly experiences) so just go with what I like and don't like.
 
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It's a tea that I drank a lot of when I did some "work" in China/Hong Kong while in the Navy. Stuff we get in the States is crap. Anyway, it was barely there, but there. I found it interesting. I can't tast too much either, but that's probably b/c I don't have any cake built up on any of my pipes yet as I'm a newbie.
 
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I haven't tried it but have been wondering about it and other Stokkebye bulk blends for beefing up my cellar as I understand they are reasonably priced. How close is the LBF to Escudo (my fave VaPer)? Does the cavendish make itself known? I mostly like a deep, full smoke with a goodly amount of nic and little if any sweetness.
 
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LBF would probably be too sweet for you as the "bullseye" is the cav; however, LNF is probably the closest to Escudo. Personally, I don't think LBF is too sweet, but know others that do. I like Va's and Va/Per's best myself. I also like Va/Per/Oriental/Lat blends too (like Presbyterian Mixture and Westminster). It's not heavy on the lat. Ani Kake is probably my favorite right now.
 

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Both contain fermented leaves. Maybe the similarity you've noticed is something to do with a common flavour contribution from the fermentation process. Just a thought. You'd be amazed at some of the flavours you notice when you really give a blend your full attention. When I took my turn in the Blind Review thread, all sorts of strange flavours popped up - first one that springs to mind is salted potato chips.

I'm not sure how much you know about how the human taste/smell system identifies flavours/smells, but I can try to explain. Basically, your tongue and olfactory bulb (in the nose) contain thousands of receptors. Smell and taste molecules bind to these receptors and send a signal to your brain. Your brain 'analyzes' the pattern of signals it receives and converts it into a taste/smell. You can think of it like a QR code that you can scan with modern phones. If the taste of the tea and the taste of the LBF produce similar patterns (or QR codes if you use that analogy) via the receptors , your brain identifies them as similar, and whilst they may not be identical, if the patterns are close enough your brain will link the two, and tell you it's the same thing.

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen, proof that studying neuroscience is useful.
 

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I haven't tried it but have been wondering about it and other Stokkebye bulk blends for beefing up my cellar as I understand they are reasonably priced. How close is the LBF to Escudo (my fave VaPer)? Does the cavendish make itself known? I mostly like a deep, full smoke with a goodly amount of nic and little if any sweetness.
I use LBF as a stand in for escudo. Escudo is sweeter according to me, but both are great.
 

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The entire Luxury Series (LBF/LNF/LTF) continue to get better with age, and hold up very well in the cellar.
While I haven't found the "unexpected" flavor you describe, I would suggest putting some aside to age.
It can be very interesting to compare how you're tastes may change, and how the tobacco changes as well.
 
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I use LBF as a stand in for escudo. Escudo is sweeter according to me, but both are great.
Interesting. BriarRabbit finds LBF to be sweeter than Escudo. I personally don't get much sweetness from Escudo and that's one of the reasons I like it so much. Hey, just goes to show you that everyone is different and there are thousands of blends out there for a reason.
 

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LBF has become my go-to. I really haven't tried to discern any particular notes from it as yet, but sometime when I get bored maybe I'll figure out why I like it so much.
But I dont know what Chinese black tea tastes like. So if I do detect it, I'll maybe assign some other flavor.
 

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and about midway through the bowl, I start getting some Chinese Black Tea notes(??). Not just in passing... like most of the rest of the smoke. It wasn't overpowering at all. It was an underlying profile that I was not expecting in my admittedly limited experience with the wonderful stuff.
I haven't had the pleasure of smoking any of this but if it has hints of Chinese black tea I am in. Man that sounds amazing. ( I love good tea).

Thanks for this post.

Shawn
 
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I haven't had the pleasure of smoking any of this but if it has hints of Chinese black tea I am in. Man that sounds amazing. ( I love good tea).

Thanks for this post.

Shawn
It is wonderful stuff ... even without that mystical profile I got. I'm going to be aging the LBF and LNF I just ordered to see how that changes things up. I highly recommend both.

David
 
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